1 00:00:03,889 --> 00:00:01,730 so hopefully we can pick it back up I 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:03,899 know we're live on the air I'm so sorry 3 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:06,569 no no that's not you that's that's my 4 00:00:11,150 --> 00:00:08,820 internet service provider unfortunately 5 00:00:13,339 --> 00:00:11,160 and have you listened to enough podcasts 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:13,349 over the years like I have that doesn't 7 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:15,690 happen once in a while unfortunately but 8 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:17,640 well maybe we've been messed with 9 00:00:21,740 --> 00:00:20,070 maybe I don't think that's the case it's 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:21,750 just one of those things and it did 11 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:24,570 happen so yeah my connection is not the 12 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:26,130 greatest today for some reason or 13 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:28,710 another but okay that wasn't too bad 14 00:00:33,229 --> 00:00:31,410 we've had worse I we had grant Cameron 15 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:33,239 on his computer crashed and that cost us 16 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:37,200 about five minutes so but we're okay 17 00:00:43,639 --> 00:00:41,550 we're back on so we're good great let's 18 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:43,649 see we were we're talking about hard 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:46,680 science and UFOs that's right right and 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:48,930 we got into that from the discussion of 21 00:00:55,549 --> 00:00:52,410 the whole Travis Walton story no it will 22 00:00:59,750 --> 00:00:55,559 actually have Travis and Limca ty in 23 00:01:02,119 --> 00:00:59,760 town they're coming in Tuesday night and 24 00:01:06,020 --> 00:01:02,129 so they're actually available all day 25 00:01:09,679 --> 00:01:06,030 Thursday to do any other press like in 26 00:01:11,539 --> 00:01:09,689 the Philadelphia area television or any 27 00:01:12,740 --> 00:01:11,549 you know if there's anyone who wants to 28 00:01:15,469 --> 00:01:12,750 speak with them we just thought well 29 00:01:16,999 --> 00:01:15,479 let's bring a few in early so that they 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:17,009 can do something and you know the press 31 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:21,210 is ignoring sent video link after video 32 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:24,479 link of all sorts of Louisa Elizondo 33 00:01:31,219 --> 00:01:26,880 speaking Nick Pope speaking and Kathleen 34 00:01:34,370 --> 00:01:31,229 and and and and Travis and Lynne even 35 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:34,380 some little clips of John Brandenburg do 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:36,060 you think we can get an interest from 37 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:37,770 the mainstream media in Philadelphia 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:40,380 it's such a conservative town I'm like 39 00:01:45,350 --> 00:01:42,810 my goodness what why are they sleeping 40 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:45,360 at the wheel you know that we're 41 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:48,000 entertained to death today unfortunately 42 00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:50,220 people are entertained on their cell 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:52,710 phones on their computers and you know 44 00:01:58,340 --> 00:01:54,890 they sit down in front of the TV and 45 00:02:00,260 --> 00:01:58,350 there's just media everywhere there's 46 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:00,270 freaking media when you go to pump your 47 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:03,450 gas think you would think I'll tell you 48 00:02:10,249 --> 00:02:05,369 what though I live in Bucks County 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:10,259 so in lower bucks and MUFON is generally 50 00:02:16,750 --> 00:02:14,410 done a conference every fall 51 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:16,760 and we're going to do one again this 52 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:19,520 year okay the mufon PA people are doing 53 00:02:25,450 --> 00:02:21,500 another conference I think it'll be 54 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:25,460 October 28th to 29th I can flip my 55 00:02:30,610 --> 00:02:26,870 calendar and see but it's usually the 56 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:30,620 less usually around Halloween we won't 57 00:02:33,850 --> 00:02:32,120 be able to be there this year it's the 58 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:33,860 26th and 27th 59 00:02:37,690 --> 00:02:35,930 it'll be Friday night in all day 60 00:02:39,490 --> 00:02:37,700 Saturday I don't think they're doing a 61 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:39,500 Sunday program but I've been asked to 62 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:40,910 speak in Albuquerque at on their 63 00:02:46,449 --> 00:02:43,220 conference so unfortunately I will be 64 00:02:47,949 --> 00:02:46,459 away and will not be there I you know 65 00:02:50,050 --> 00:02:47,959 I've been watching that keeping my eye 66 00:02:52,270 --> 00:02:50,060 on that one for years and now generally 67 00:02:54,850 --> 00:02:52,280 yeah the local media does give that some 68 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:54,860 coverage so I don't know why your larger 69 00:02:59,830 --> 00:02:57,290 event over in Cherry Hill is not getting 70 00:03:04,300 --> 00:02:59,840 that kind of attention at that strikes 71 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:04,310 me as a little odd yes yes well I don't 72 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:07,370 know either and it's not for not trying 73 00:03:15,460 --> 00:03:12,160 nice speakers have done huge amounts of 74 00:03:17,020 --> 00:03:15,470 internet radio in fact Louise Elizondo 75 00:03:20,650 --> 00:03:17,030 was on coast to coast 76 00:03:23,530 --> 00:03:20,660 so was Jan horizon-- this past week all 77 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,540 of our speakers have done numerous 78 00:03:27,790 --> 00:03:25,280 internet radio shows at least all of 79 00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:27,800 them have done two or three internet 80 00:03:31,330 --> 00:03:29,540 radio shows in the last three months 81 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:31,340 many of them have done four or five or 82 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:34,820 six so the UFO community and those that 83 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:37,190 listen to podcast are aware but the 84 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:40,610 mainstream is just not getting the you 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:43,310 know the information even Cheryl Costa 86 00:03:48,699 --> 00:03:46,970 who's a fabulous gal wrote an amazing 87 00:03:51,490 --> 00:03:48,709 book I hope you've had her on your show 88 00:03:53,590 --> 00:03:51,500 we'll get to her I know she's great 89 00:03:56,259 --> 00:03:53,600 she's great she's she and her partner 90 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:56,269 are amazing statisticians and they 91 00:04:00,490 --> 00:03:57,769 decided to look at what the mainstream 92 00:04:03,070 --> 00:04:00,500 media was saying about UFO statistics 93 00:04:04,660 --> 00:04:03,080 saying oh you know nobody's talking 94 00:04:06,729 --> 00:04:04,670 about UFOs anymore they're not showing 95 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:06,739 up anymore it must not be a real 96 00:04:11,050 --> 00:04:08,870 phenomenon so she went through and said 97 00:04:14,110 --> 00:04:11,060 wait a minute I'm going to actually look 98 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:14,120 up that statistic in 2012 and see if 99 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:16,430 they're right and in fact she found out 100 00:04:24,219 --> 00:04:20,650 no in fact UFO sightings are up like 101 00:04:26,020 --> 00:04:24,229 it's like I don't know 50 60 % so she 102 00:04:26,730 --> 00:04:26,030 started crunching the numbers and doing 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:26,740 the stats 104 00:04:31,170 --> 00:04:30,130 not only muffins numbers on UFO 105 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:31,180 Reporting Center 106 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:33,970 Peter Davenport's organization and she 107 00:04:37,980 --> 00:04:35,770 got all of the numbers together and then 108 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:37,990 compare them to historically back and 109 00:04:41,850 --> 00:04:39,490 she was like wow 110 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:41,860 no there it's on the rise here are the 111 00:04:50,219 --> 00:04:44,650 biggest dates and then she did a cross 112 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:50,229 charm where counties and cities all over 113 00:04:54,749 --> 00:04:52,090 the United States on a map and then 114 00:04:56,490 --> 00:04:54,759 mapped what what the stats were for that 115 00:04:59,610 --> 00:04:56,500 particular area so you want to know 116 00:05:01,680 --> 00:04:59,620 anything about UFO sightings it's her 117 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:01,690 and you know what she did she did 118 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:04,240 something amazing god bless her she sent 119 00:05:09,290 --> 00:05:06,460 public service announcements to radio 120 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,300 stations all throughout New Jersey in 121 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Philadelphia and Maryland and he's 122 00:05:16,770 --> 00:05:13,289 anywhere within a 50-mile radius 123 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:16,780 offering them what their stats were for 124 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:19,270 their particular county and jurisdiction 125 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:21,370 and do you know they sent them back and 126 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:24,310 said we're not interested like they 127 00:05:27,089 --> 00:05:26,050 pushed back and said nope we're not 128 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:27,099 going to do the public service 129 00:05:32,089 --> 00:05:28,780 announcements right you know we're too 130 00:05:37,170 --> 00:05:32,099 busy right now it's like it's theirs oh 131 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:37,180 we're I don't know if there's a media 132 00:05:41,330 --> 00:05:39,490 hush gag rule out there or like with 133 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:41,340 Steve Bassett calls it a truth embargo 134 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:44,740 but we have been programmed for so long 135 00:05:50,540 --> 00:05:47,440 by the mainstream media to have a 136 00:05:52,770 --> 00:05:50,550 laughter curtain around this topic and 137 00:05:56,939 --> 00:05:52,780 unfortunately it's coming back to keep 138 00:05:59,059 --> 00:05:56,949 people really in the dark because when 139 00:06:02,480 --> 00:05:59,069 people realize this is a real phenomenon 140 00:06:05,850 --> 00:06:02,490 it could have significant ramifications 141 00:06:08,820 --> 00:06:05,860 and we actually touch about on that in 142 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:08,830 the film in Travis's film as you well 143 00:06:12,659 --> 00:06:11,289 know you know I mean people say okay if 144 00:06:14,189 --> 00:06:12,669 they're coming here why don't they land 145 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:14,199 on the White House lawn you know why 146 00:06:19,860 --> 00:06:16,650 isn't it announced on mainstream news 147 00:06:22,589 --> 00:06:19,870 and it's a complex issue to wrap your 148 00:06:24,510 --> 00:06:22,599 brain around so when I saw the Lewis 149 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:24,520 Elizondo you know announcements in 150 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:26,710 December 16th and saw what was going on 151 00:06:31,230 --> 00:06:29,050 I was like wow I didn't think this was 152 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:31,240 going to happen in my lifetime and I 153 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:33,130 thought it was pretty significant but 154 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:34,690 yet like a lot of people have put their 155 00:06:39,129 --> 00:06:36,460 heads back in the sand you know like 156 00:06:42,219 --> 00:06:39,139 ostriches sent a beach right 157 00:06:44,890 --> 00:06:42,229 you're not continuing to hear about this 158 00:06:47,469 --> 00:06:44,900 and I don't understand completely why I 159 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:47,479 mean you can look at the Robertson panel 160 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:49,310 and the Robertson report even though 161 00:06:54,219 --> 00:06:52,370 that's 1952 it's important and it's 162 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:54,229 significant because in that period of 163 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:57,289 time you had mainstream UFO news out 164 00:07:02,559 --> 00:07:00,080 there a lot from 47 straight through to 165 00:07:04,929 --> 00:07:02,569 52 I mean it was on the cover of The New 166 00:07:07,270 --> 00:07:04,939 York Times Washington Post all the time 167 00:07:09,550 --> 00:07:07,280 journalists actually especially the fly 168 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:09,560 over the whole flotilla that flew over 169 00:07:15,430 --> 00:07:12,560 the Capitol in 1952 I think it was July 170 00:07:17,290 --> 00:07:15,440 2nd 3rd or 4th something like that it 171 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:17,300 was a little later in the month but yeah 172 00:07:23,140 --> 00:07:20,449 that's that yeah yeah about that case 173 00:07:25,089 --> 00:07:23,150 that was all over and I think at that 174 00:07:27,790 --> 00:07:25,099 point it was right after that that the 175 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Robertson pick panel was commissioned in 176 00:07:31,869 --> 00:07:29,810 Congress and then the Robertson port 177 00:07:33,850 --> 00:07:31,879 came out right after that and you can 178 00:07:36,610 --> 00:07:33,860 people can listening can go and google 179 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:36,620 it and find it online and read it it's I 180 00:07:46,149 --> 00:07:38,449 think we're still operating under that 181 00:07:50,559 --> 00:07:46,159 modus of protocol and in doing that in 182 00:07:56,589 --> 00:07:50,569 keeping this as a possible you just just 183 00:07:59,050 --> 00:07:56,599 debunking it just raises real problems 184 00:08:00,850 --> 00:07:59,060 in the way we approach things whether 185 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:00,860 it's scientifically or objectively 186 00:08:07,209 --> 00:08:04,400 really to be a real scientist you have 187 00:08:10,029 --> 00:08:07,219 to gather all the facts and follow those 188 00:08:12,399 --> 00:08:10,039 fat-eating you in an area which is 189 00:08:14,769 --> 00:08:12,409 uncomfortable you can bury some facts 190 00:08:18,369 --> 00:08:14,779 and only look at others which is exactly 191 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:18,379 what the media often claims UFO 192 00:08:22,390 --> 00:08:20,810 researchers are doing oh you're only 193 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:22,400 looking at that but you're not looking 194 00:08:27,399 --> 00:08:25,520 at this well no they're skeptical really 195 00:08:29,890 --> 00:08:27,409 and MUFON what we try to do is create 196 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:29,900 what's called IFOS we try to take a 197 00:08:34,029 --> 00:08:32,240 sighting report and go back and trace 198 00:08:35,439 --> 00:08:34,039 through and say all right what were 199 00:08:37,689 --> 00:08:35,449 there any meteor showers 200 00:08:39,939 --> 00:08:37,699 what were the satellites going over at 201 00:08:41,649 --> 00:08:39,949 the time where they're aircraft in the 202 00:08:44,259 --> 00:08:41,659 area what was the weather at the time 203 00:08:47,199 --> 00:08:44,269 were there any weather inversions was 204 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:47,209 there any explosions you know what is 205 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:50,000 the police reports say what's the you 206 00:08:53,319 --> 00:08:52,970 know air traffic control reports at the 207 00:08:56,079 --> 00:08:53,329 time 208 00:08:58,660 --> 00:08:56,089 there any military reporting's at the 209 00:09:00,999 --> 00:08:58,670 time and we try to find what that was 210 00:09:03,419 --> 00:09:01,009 and we try to solve a case and then 211 00:09:06,939 --> 00:09:03,429 close the case so we look for 212 00:09:09,819 --> 00:09:06,949 identifiable you know reasons why 213 00:09:11,859 --> 00:09:09,829 someone had an odd experience and when 214 00:09:14,259 --> 00:09:11,869 we get it where we absolutely cannot 215 00:09:15,970 --> 00:09:14,269 find it we closed it as an unknown and 216 00:09:18,369 --> 00:09:15,980 that's what MUFON is well known for 217 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:18,379 doing our mission statement is that we 218 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:21,290 are our goal is to scientifically 219 00:09:26,619 --> 00:09:24,049 explore the UFO phenomenon for the 220 00:09:29,799 --> 00:09:26,629 benefit of humanity and really doing 221 00:09:32,379 --> 00:09:29,809 conferences like this is where the 222 00:09:34,179 --> 00:09:32,389 benefit of humanity comes forward unless 223 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:34,189 you're in our organization or you're a 224 00:09:37,869 --> 00:09:36,290 field investigator or you read some of 225 00:09:39,819 --> 00:09:37,879 the books written by people who have 226 00:09:43,419 --> 00:09:39,829 been involved in MUFON you don't really 227 00:09:45,819 --> 00:09:43,429 know what's going on inside MUFON but if 228 00:09:50,199 --> 00:09:45,829 you're the general public this is a way 229 00:09:51,819 --> 00:09:50,209 to find out the event like this and like 230 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:51,829 I said we may not be back on the East 231 00:09:56,319 --> 00:09:53,809 Coast for another five or ten here's 232 00:09:59,259 --> 00:09:56,329 easy you don't know I have to travel 233 00:10:03,970 --> 00:09:59,269 much further in a las vegas or florida 234 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:03,980 chicago san Julis to to hear the quality 235 00:10:08,289 --> 00:10:06,110 that book in here to this conference 236 00:10:10,449 --> 00:10:08,299 Jerry Jerry Hill is a great location 237 00:10:12,729 --> 00:10:10,459 because your honor you are so close to 238 00:10:15,699 --> 00:10:12,739 Philly you're not far from DC or New 239 00:10:18,389 --> 00:10:15,709 York City so you should you've got a 240 00:10:21,340 --> 00:10:18,399 huge potential audience to draw from 241 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:21,350 that's right that's right yes and we're 242 00:10:26,049 --> 00:10:23,600 so we're really hoping that we usually 243 00:10:28,119 --> 00:10:26,059 get you know about a hundred walk in so 244 00:10:30,129 --> 00:10:28,129 we're just preparing ourselves hoping 245 00:10:31,299 --> 00:10:30,139 that that will also happen but our 246 00:10:35,139 --> 00:10:31,309 numbers are pretty good we will 247 00:10:37,989 --> 00:10:35,149 definitely reach 400 probably 500 over 248 00:10:40,139 --> 00:10:37,999 the whole conference you know and that's 249 00:10:42,819 --> 00:10:40,149 great that's what we were shooting for 250 00:10:45,489 --> 00:10:42,829 fantastic we're always shooting for more 251 00:10:47,650 --> 00:10:45,499 thank you right thousand people showed 252 00:10:49,929 --> 00:10:47,660 up well maybe someday you'll be at the 253 00:10:52,929 --> 00:10:49,939 link or a Citizens Bank Park for these 254 00:10:55,569 --> 00:10:52,939 events you know you never know you never 255 00:10:57,639 --> 00:10:55,579 know certainly these crafts are showing 256 00:10:59,619 --> 00:10:57,649 up for big events like that you know 257 00:11:02,499 --> 00:10:59,629 when Bruce Springsteen was playing on 258 00:11:04,539 --> 00:11:02,509 the Parkway there were maybe six or 259 00:11:06,319 --> 00:11:04,549 seven videos that were posted online 260 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:06,329 from different spots 261 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:09,809 the crowd filming something overhead was 262 00:11:15,199 --> 00:11:12,569 listening maybe to the Bruce Springsteen 263 00:11:17,419 --> 00:11:15,209 concert and there have been you know 264 00:11:20,419 --> 00:11:17,429 craft over ball fields and things like 265 00:11:22,819 --> 00:11:20,429 that and when those things happen in 266 00:11:24,650 --> 00:11:22,829 this day and age it's so great because 267 00:11:27,109 --> 00:11:24,660 everybody's got a cell phone with video 268 00:11:30,319 --> 00:11:27,119 and if they're close enough you get 269 00:11:31,819 --> 00:11:30,329 these fairly good quality because cell 270 00:11:33,979 --> 00:11:31,829 phones that are automatically 271 00:11:36,410 --> 00:11:33,989 triangulated in different parts of the 272 00:11:38,449 --> 00:11:36,420 crowd and the ball field or whatever so 273 00:11:41,419 --> 00:11:38,459 that's confirmation to begin with you 274 00:11:44,419 --> 00:11:41,429 get more than three points right angle 275 00:11:51,259 --> 00:11:44,429 you can triangulate really well and 276 00:11:54,289 --> 00:11:51,269 these days the cell update down to a and 277 00:11:58,549 --> 00:11:54,299 a couple of feet where you know with GPS 278 00:12:01,879 --> 00:11:58,559 readings on on photos these days you can 279 00:12:03,769 --> 00:12:01,889 say exactly where someone was so this is 280 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:03,779 really fascinating when you have big 281 00:12:16,939 --> 00:12:14,319 now you're saying that you think that 282 00:12:18,979 --> 00:12:16,949 Lois Elizondo is going to be a big draw 283 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:18,989 for you based on that what you've got in 284 00:12:24,319 --> 00:12:21,360 how did that process go in terms of 285 00:12:27,379 --> 00:12:24,329 getting him to to come on out I know he 286 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:27,389 was going to do a conference out west 287 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:29,910 earlier this year that he was going to 288 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:31,529 be there but then at the last minute he 289 00:12:38,210 --> 00:12:35,850 did something via video so I wasn't 290 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:38,220 there personally but he's gonna be there 291 00:12:40,729 --> 00:12:39,660 he's going to be taking questions from 292 00:12:44,509 --> 00:12:40,739 the audience at all 293 00:12:49,369 --> 00:12:44,519 yes he is it's all about relationships 294 00:12:51,499 --> 00:12:49,379 and Jan horizon-- has actually had 295 00:12:53,629 --> 00:12:51,509 relationships with a number of the other 296 00:12:54,259 --> 00:12:53,639 people involved in the to the Stars 297 00:12:56,239 --> 00:12:54,269 Academy 298 00:13:01,220 --> 00:12:56,249 I think Jan knows Chris Mellon pretty 299 00:13:04,460 --> 00:13:01,230 well and Jim semi van and you know 300 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,470 friends are friends Jim is Jim gonna be 301 00:13:07,789 --> 00:13:06,959 there you know he only don't live down 302 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:07,799 the Turnpike 303 00:13:12,079 --> 00:13:09,689 he doesn't live that far from here yeah 304 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:12,089 I don't honestly I don't know I would 305 00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:17,910 love to say I maybe Jan I have not 306 00:13:20,090 --> 00:13:19,889 gotten wind of it it would be great if 307 00:13:28,670 --> 00:13:20,100 he 308 00:13:30,410 --> 00:13:28,680 one-on-one and Saturday night I mean 309 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:30,420 that's going to be an intimate group I 310 00:13:34,490 --> 00:13:31,769 think we're limiting it to about a 311 00:13:37,129 --> 00:13:34,500 hundred you may have a few tickets left 312 00:13:39,199 --> 00:13:37,139 for it we're gonna have a couple drinks 313 00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:39,209 some butlered hors d'oeuvres you know 314 00:13:46,340 --> 00:13:42,000 let people you know mingle and talk and 315 00:13:49,550 --> 00:13:46,350 be with Louisa Elizondo and get to chat 316 00:13:51,319 --> 00:13:49,560 with him about what you know what he 317 00:13:53,210 --> 00:13:51,329 knows more in depth well we still talked 318 00:13:56,389 --> 00:13:53,220 a little bit on his own and then open up 319 00:13:58,999 --> 00:13:56,399 the floor to questions well we know that 320 00:14:00,829 --> 00:13:59,009 that we know now that they did look at 321 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:00,839 the Stephenville so I'd be kind of 322 00:14:04,730 --> 00:14:02,370 curious to hear what his feedback is 323 00:14:12,309 --> 00:14:04,740 about that and what they definitely hope 324 00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:12,319 you're coming Frank haha absolutely yes 325 00:14:16,309 --> 00:14:14,639 that that's going to be a game-time 326 00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:16,319 decision based on work schedule 327 00:14:21,050 --> 00:14:19,199 unfortunately yeah I'd like to get over 328 00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:21,060 there but that can't 329 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:23,430 well that that one-on-one is like 5:30 330 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:26,639 Saturday okay okay right inside the 331 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:28,110 front entrance of the hotel you just 332 00:14:32,749 --> 00:14:30,240 come in the hotel make a left but we are 333 00:14:36,410 --> 00:14:32,759 charging for it and it might be sold out 334 00:14:39,110 --> 00:14:36,420 so if you can if you can anyway plan and 335 00:14:43,610 --> 00:14:39,120 register ahead I recommend it got it got 336 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:43,620 it yeah yeah so there's a lots lots to 337 00:14:48,319 --> 00:14:45,360 talk about on this topic and I know you 338 00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,329 at Lind khatai on the air and he did a 339 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:50,399 great interview with you yes she did yes 340 00:14:55,879 --> 00:14:53,730 she did does she she really knows that 341 00:14:58,759 --> 00:14:55,889 case really well and has been out there 342 00:15:00,019 --> 00:14:58,769 working it and it's an amazing case 343 00:15:02,059 --> 00:15:00,029 cases like that 344 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:02,069 that was obviously a huge market in 345 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:05,130 Phoenix so but those kind of cases that 346 00:15:09,230 --> 00:15:07,410 really get an entire community worked up 347 00:15:13,939 --> 00:15:09,240 they always seem to come along maybe 348 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:13,949 about once a decade yes mate may may be 349 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:17,310 so or maybe it takes someone like Lynne 350 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:20,490 to bring it to people's attention there 351 00:15:26,090 --> 00:15:22,529 may be other mass sightings like this 352 00:15:27,980 --> 00:15:26,100 going on but it doesn't get dealt with 353 00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:27,990 because you need to have someone who's 354 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:30,630 going to say wait a minute and draw a 355 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:32,610 line in the sand and say don't tell me I 356 00:15:37,220 --> 00:15:33,510 didn't know what 357 00:15:42,439 --> 00:15:37,230 saw you know I'm an MD I want I loved 358 00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:42,449 limb she's just like come off telling 359 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:44,639 she's from Philly she's from Philly 360 00:15:51,199 --> 00:15:46,529 that's right she went to medical school 361 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:51,209 right here at Temple and Lin I'm sure 362 00:15:55,009 --> 00:15:52,920 told you that she's come out with the 363 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:55,019 book for kids because she sees the 364 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,050 importance of making sure that the next 365 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:00,720 generation is brought into the fold 366 00:16:05,389 --> 00:16:03,690 because this is a strange subject I mean 367 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:05,399 how do you begin to wrap your brain 368 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:07,170 around something that you've been told 369 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:11,430 for seventy years or more is not real 370 00:16:16,699 --> 00:16:14,070 and now we're saying oh yeah no yes it 371 00:16:18,829 --> 00:16:16,709 is real and but we're not really going 372 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:18,839 to talk about it and if there's going to 373 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:20,730 be a lot of hidden information and a lot 374 00:16:24,889 --> 00:16:23,490 of innuendos and if you come forward and 375 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:24,899 say you saw something people are going 376 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:27,209 to ridicule you I mean how do you start 377 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:29,730 to teach your kids about this and we 378 00:16:34,670 --> 00:16:31,529 live in an age right now it's so 379 00:16:36,980 --> 00:16:34,680 interesting we have of course the me to 380 00:16:39,439 --> 00:16:36,990 hash tag movement going on right and 381 00:16:43,699 --> 00:16:39,449 there's a big movement of well-educated 382 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:43,709 a african-american saying you know gee I 383 00:16:48,259 --> 00:16:45,600 was in a store the other day and like 384 00:16:49,790 --> 00:16:48,269 they wouldn't give me a bag for my praat 385 00:16:51,710 --> 00:16:49,800 you know I product that I bought even 386 00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:51,720 though I had a receipt and I got to the 387 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:55,500 door and I was harassed because they 388 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:56,850 thought I was trying to steal something 389 00:17:00,920 --> 00:16:59,130 and I'm a PhD and I teach at Temple 390 00:17:03,379 --> 00:17:00,930 University and I'm being treated like 391 00:17:06,980 --> 00:17:03,389 I'm shoplifting excuse me 392 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:06,990 right there's this big awareness that we 393 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:09,689 are doing profiling of all sorts of 394 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:11,790 people there's racial profiling going on 395 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:16,500 there's you know you know abuse against 396 00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:19,679 women profiling going on there sexual 397 00:17:24,799 --> 00:17:22,230 abuse going on but nobody's ever talked 398 00:17:27,409 --> 00:17:24,809 about the profiling of people who come 399 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:27,419 forward on the UFO topic so what would 400 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:30,480 you call them abductees or UFO 401 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:32,940 experiencers but we've undergone 402 00:17:38,169 --> 00:17:36,240 profiling to where people in your family 403 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:38,179 and your friends and your community just 404 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:40,890 completely write you off and go oh well 405 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:42,960 she's out there on the loony bin I mean 406 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:45,210 I've had it happen to me yeah okay okay 407 00:17:49,399 --> 00:17:46,500 no I never had 408 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,409 I never have but you know I did a TV 409 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:51,840 show years ago without it's your call 410 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:54,390 Linda land Philadelphia okay I remember 411 00:17:58,279 --> 00:17:56,370 that show no and then my kids went to a 412 00:18:00,230 --> 00:17:58,289 pretty conservative school here on the 413 00:18:02,659 --> 00:18:00,240 main line I won't mention names but you 414 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,669 know I went to a cocktail party at the 415 00:18:06,289 --> 00:18:04,080 beginning of the school year where the 416 00:18:08,299 --> 00:18:06,299 new parents show up and I had people 417 00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,309 come up to me and just say well I saw 418 00:18:11,899 --> 00:18:10,559 you on the Lynde oil show you know and 419 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:11,909 then they like walked away and they 420 00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:14,450 never talked to me again 421 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:17,039 never doesn't like and I heard oh yeah 422 00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:19,890 she's she's the loony toony in the class 423 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:21,929 you know they don't don't let your kids 424 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:24,690 go play with her kids you know I mean it 425 00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:27,690 happened it happened and I'm like okay 426 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:29,820 well you know if they if they really 427 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:32,490 want to meet me I thought we have a lot 428 00:18:36,289 --> 00:18:34,289 of fun together I mean I have the best 429 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,299 time when I go to these UFO conferences 430 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:38,400 because I have the most profound deep 431 00:18:43,340 --> 00:18:41,340 conversations with people you know it's 432 00:18:45,289 --> 00:18:43,350 like a lot of the [\h__\h] is cut out of 433 00:18:47,659 --> 00:18:45,299 the way you don't have to sit and talk 434 00:18:49,390 --> 00:18:47,669 about light stuff going on you jump 435 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:49,400 right into what the political 436 00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:52,080 ramifications of this what are we in a 437 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:54,049 John Brandenburg I've had such amazing 438 00:18:58,580 --> 00:18:55,710 conversations with him on the phone 439 00:19:01,250 --> 00:18:58,590 about plasma because I researched them 440 00:19:02,450 --> 00:19:01,260 because I speak on crop circles so I'm 441 00:19:04,490 --> 00:19:02,460 trying to understand the Earth's 442 00:19:06,919 --> 00:19:04,500 electromagnetic field what's going on 443 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:06,929 onto the ground what's happening 444 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,320 electrically and aquifers and in the 445 00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:12,480 summer when the water recedes to charge 446 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:15,919 the bill but how does that affect our 447 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:19,260 atmosphere our controls fear what's 448 00:19:24,169 --> 00:19:22,049 going on with these sprites happening so 449 00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:24,179 okay let me let me jump in real quick 450 00:19:28,430 --> 00:19:26,070 here because you brought up crop circles 451 00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:28,440 and that to be honest with you there's a 452 00:19:33,380 --> 00:19:30,780 lot to know about the UFO field neither 453 00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:33,390 I think I know a reasonable amount about 454 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:34,860 the things that I've looked closely at 455 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,990 one thing I've never looked closely at 456 00:19:41,090 --> 00:19:39,360 is the crop circles so for somebody like 457 00:19:44,450 --> 00:19:41,100 me who's I've never really taken a close 458 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:44,460 look at it why don't you tell me why you 459 00:19:49,159 --> 00:19:46,650 why it's been important to you and what 460 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:49,169 they you've gotten out of it well one of 461 00:19:53,810 --> 00:19:52,260 the things I study is not only crop 462 00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:53,820 circles because if you're just looking 463 00:19:57,260 --> 00:19:55,679 at crop circles you're looking sort of 464 00:20:00,649 --> 00:19:57,270 at the cream of the crop and something 465 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:00,659 really pretty and hard to explain but 466 00:20:05,479 --> 00:20:02,330 have to kind of look I'm a small-scale 467 00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:05,489 you have to look at the soil samples and 468 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:07,799 the seed germination studies that are 469 00:20:13,549 --> 00:20:11,369 done from crop samples taken inside and 470 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:13,559 control samples taken outside of crop 471 00:20:18,979 --> 00:20:15,570 circles and when you do that and you 472 00:20:23,509 --> 00:20:18,989 compare them with what I call randomly 473 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:23,519 downed crop or messy crop laid down in a 474 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:26,609 field after a rainstorm and you looked 475 00:20:32,029 --> 00:20:29,129 and do the same thing they're taking 476 00:20:35,089 --> 00:20:32,039 soil samples looking at the crop taking 477 00:20:37,099 --> 00:20:35,099 seed germination studies looking at the 478 00:20:39,589 --> 00:20:37,109 expulsion cavities looking at the 479 00:20:42,019 --> 00:20:39,599 dryness in the crop and the dryness in 480 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:42,029 the soil looking for crystallinity in 481 00:20:47,719 --> 00:20:45,570 the soil which is found looking for any 482 00:20:49,729 --> 00:20:47,729 kind of electrical field that's there 483 00:20:53,659 --> 00:20:49,739 with a Trifield meter reader and just 484 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,669 seeing how much magnetite is in the 485 00:20:57,349 --> 00:20:54,720 actual soil 486 00:21:00,769 --> 00:20:57,359 it's amazing the similarities between 487 00:21:03,589 --> 00:21:00,779 randomly down crop and crop circles do I 488 00:21:05,509 --> 00:21:03,599 get a lot of these locally yeah yeah you 489 00:21:06,889 --> 00:21:05,519 do and where you live Frank you're going 490 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:06,899 to see them all the time when you start 491 00:21:10,609 --> 00:21:08,849 realizing what you're looking at you 492 00:21:11,930 --> 00:21:10,619 know like when you buy a new car and 493 00:21:14,029 --> 00:21:11,940 then suddenly you see that car 494 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:14,039 everywhere on the street right once you 495 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:15,840 wake up and understand what randomly 496 00:21:18,919 --> 00:21:17,129 down crop is you're going to start 497 00:21:20,419 --> 00:21:18,929 seeing it all the time you're going to 498 00:21:22,609 --> 00:21:20,429 find yourself slamming on the brakes 499 00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:22,619 pulling over jumping out running into 500 00:21:26,029 --> 00:21:24,059 people's fields Green what made this 501 00:21:28,489 --> 00:21:26,039 crop layover what's going on here in the 502 00:21:30,229 --> 00:21:28,499 ground you're gonna be like running to 503 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:30,239 your car and getting your Starbucks cup 504 00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,369 and sticking soil it because you want to 505 00:21:37,249 --> 00:21:35,039 look at it under a microscope it's 506 00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:37,259 absolutely fascinating there are 507 00:21:40,639 --> 00:21:39,509 electrical conditions that exist on this 508 00:21:43,789 --> 00:21:40,649 planet that we don't yet fully 509 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:43,799 completely understand geologic 510 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:46,590 electrical things where I think there's 511 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:49,950 some kind of electrical charge that 512 00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:52,830 could be related to terror Hertz 513 00:21:59,659 --> 00:21:56,580 microwave rays gamma rays I mean in 514 00:22:01,820 --> 00:21:59,669 other fields or other perspectives that 515 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:01,830 we can't see you know beyond the visible 516 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:04,169 light spectrum at or below or above it 517 00:22:10,999 --> 00:22:07,529 and there are electrical interactions 518 00:22:14,110 --> 00:22:11,009 going on between the ground of the earth 519 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:14,120 and upper layers of our atmosphere 520 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:16,520 that we don't yet fully completely 521 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:18,980 understand and when you start to read 522 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:21,230 and understand the whole nature of 523 00:22:28,570 --> 00:22:25,760 plasma activity it is mind-blowing I 524 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:28,580 just finished getting through a book by 525 00:22:33,490 --> 00:22:31,430 anthony peratt I love Anthony for a 526 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,500 number of reasons he's a he's a great 527 00:22:38,770 --> 00:22:35,360 scientist he's worked at Lawrence 528 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:38,780 Livermore labs and you know he's I think 529 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:41,270 he's done work with NASA he does a lot 530 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:43,910 of aerospace you know understanding and 531 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:46,610 discussions of space with in think tanks 532 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:51,040 with other groups his book is called the 533 00:22:57,330 --> 00:22:54,290 nature of the plasma universe when you 534 00:23:00,430 --> 00:22:57,340 understand how absolutely powerful 535 00:23:02,770 --> 00:23:00,440 electrical forces and electro magnetics 536 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:02,780 are and the combination of 537 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:05,210 electromagnetic energy in with plasma 538 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:08,630 energy and the dynamic force that these 539 00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:11,570 powers have you can look at a crop 540 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:15,080 that's downed and think so it looks like 541 00:23:20,020 --> 00:23:17,150 a river just rolled through here or 542 00:23:23,230 --> 00:23:20,030 something happened but nothing that you 543 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,240 can physically see did but yet you walk 544 00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:25,280 into a field where there's randomly down 545 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:27,110 crop and your cell phone dies and then 546 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:29,810 you walk out of that field and you're 547 00:23:34,270 --> 00:23:31,730 all your bars come back so there's some 548 00:23:36,130 --> 00:23:34,280 electrical interference going on is it 549 00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:36,140 coming out of the ground did it come 550 00:23:40,410 --> 00:23:38,360 from above is it like a lightning flash 551 00:23:42,910 --> 00:23:40,420 that goes back and forth between the two 552 00:23:44,530 --> 00:23:42,920 nobody bothers to look at it and nobody 553 00:23:46,180 --> 00:23:44,540 bothers to study it but it may be a 554 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:46,190 phenomenon that we just haven't yet been 555 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:47,690 able to really fully put our hands 556 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:50,390 around now when you start to look into 557 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:53,650 scale or wave technologies things that 558 00:24:00,760 --> 00:23:56,210 we know our government works with 559 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:00,770 certain types of beam technologies that 560 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:05,930 we use for detection of maybe nuclear 561 00:24:10,810 --> 00:24:07,610 weapon tree buried under the ground 562 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:10,820 somewhere things like this we have light 563 00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,090 sensitive equipment and we have beam 564 00:24:18,790 --> 00:24:16,400 technology using microwaves and other 565 00:24:21,730 --> 00:24:18,800 types of terror hurt rays technologies 566 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:21,740 that can interact with Arsenal's and 567 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:25,760 actually render them inert or detonate 568 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:26,600 them under too 569 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:30,559 and save you know military lives rather 570 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:32,090 than having to put troops on the ground 571 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:33,710 there's a lot of things we can do these 572 00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:36,260 days in other ways and when you start 573 00:24:41,169 --> 00:24:38,120 looking at some of that technology on 574 00:24:44,409 --> 00:24:41,179 military sites you start to realize it 575 00:24:47,740 --> 00:24:44,419 oh okay well maybe there's stuff going 576 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:47,750 on that our technology that just 577 00:24:52,659 --> 00:24:49,850 occasionally gets a little frazzled or 578 00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,669 you know is gets messed with or played 579 00:24:57,610 --> 00:24:55,039 with and the AI in the realm of these 580 00:24:59,610 --> 00:24:57,620 really pretty crop circles maybe there's 581 00:25:02,680 --> 00:24:59,620 something going on that way 582 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:02,690 everyone you know looks at the pretty 583 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:04,610 crop circles and they say oh these are 584 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:06,260 made by ETS and it's all about 585 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:09,860 consciousness and and I'm say well can 586 00:25:16,539 --> 00:25:11,900 we prove it all right 587 00:25:18,909 --> 00:25:16,549 maybe but I don't know the only thing I 588 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:18,919 can say as a scientist is I have to go 589 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:21,200 and look at the soil look at it under a 590 00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:23,450 microscope right look deuce have the 591 00:25:27,970 --> 00:25:25,700 seeds do see germination studies like 592 00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:27,980 god bless them rest is so William 593 00:25:36,130 --> 00:25:32,030 Levengood did too you know with great 594 00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:36,140 accuracy and you know we can look at 595 00:25:40,659 --> 00:25:38,600 whether or not a magnet sticks to the 596 00:25:42,850 --> 00:25:40,669 soil if you go out in your backyard and 597 00:25:44,649 --> 00:25:42,860 drag a magnet across the ground the soil 598 00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:44,659 is probably not going to stick but you 599 00:25:49,149 --> 00:25:47,020 go into these randomly down crops and 600 00:25:50,710 --> 00:25:49,159 dig up some of the soil and it's 601 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:50,720 probably going to stick to your magnet 602 00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:54,200 so how did you get into this and this 603 00:25:58,510 --> 00:25:56,510 particular site in the first place 604 00:26:01,930 --> 00:25:58,520 Oh every everything such a long story 605 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:01,940 but I would say I would say I was I 606 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:05,450 think when I was a kid I was like always 607 00:26:11,860 --> 00:26:08,320 going to look magazine right and 608 00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:11,870 Saturday Evening Post and The New Yorker 609 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:14,720 you know and looking at things that had 610 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:16,970 to do with archaeological sites ancient 611 00:26:22,419 --> 00:26:19,490 stones I was fascinated by ancient 612 00:26:25,450 --> 00:26:22,429 history and especially ancient mounds so 613 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:25,460 I started looking at these places in 614 00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:28,370 England and in like Scotland and Ireland 615 00:26:34,899 --> 00:26:31,400 like Newgrange and I'm I was fascinated 616 00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:34,909 by what are these what are these like 617 00:26:39,940 --> 00:26:37,190 stone circles what do they mean and I 618 00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:39,950 was affected by geometry and 619 00:26:45,399 --> 00:26:42,190 very very well in geometry and I was a 620 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:45,409 dancer and I understood body movement I 621 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:48,110 got into meditation I got into yoga very 622 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:51,620 early on in my teens and lived on a yoga 623 00:26:56,019 --> 00:26:53,809 ashram for a while so there was 624 00:26:58,450 --> 00:26:56,029 something about the sacred geometry and 625 00:27:00,700 --> 00:26:58,460 shapes of these ancient sites and then 626 00:27:04,299 --> 00:27:00,710 these crop circles having neck next to 627 00:27:06,399 --> 00:27:04,309 them that magnetized me and of course 628 00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:06,409 when I went to England myself I didn't 629 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:07,880 even actually get there till I think I 630 00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:10,100 was about 45 it's when I stepped into 631 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:13,700 this strange field joining MUFON and 632 00:27:19,539 --> 00:27:16,490 researching crop circles it was really 633 00:27:22,090 --> 00:27:19,549 only about you know 20 years ago it's 634 00:27:24,580 --> 00:27:22,100 never too late it's never too late I had 635 00:27:27,879 --> 00:27:24,590 to wait till my kids were grown I got 636 00:27:31,149 --> 00:27:27,889 out of the conservative confinements of 637 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:31,159 you know PTA programs and and I finally 638 00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:33,289 decided to retire from my business that 639 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:35,059 I had started I was a professional event 640 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:37,820 coordinator for 20 years and I said okay 641 00:27:40,299 --> 00:27:38,870 been there done that 642 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:40,309 I couldn't get excited about the next 643 00:27:44,259 --> 00:27:41,929 Barmes for wedding and I knew it was 644 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:44,269 time to move on and I just jumped more 645 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:47,570 full-time into filmmaking and conference 646 00:27:51,009 --> 00:27:49,370 coordination and you know other things 647 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:51,019 like that I used my talents in a 648 00:27:53,620 --> 00:27:51,710 different way 649 00:27:55,659 --> 00:27:53,630 and there's a lot of philanthropic work 650 00:27:57,460 --> 00:27:55,669 I got involved in a something called 651 00:27:59,019 --> 00:27:57,470 ceasefire I was one of the founding 652 00:28:01,299 --> 00:27:59,029 members of an organization trying to 653 00:28:02,889 --> 00:28:01,309 create sensible gun laws because if we 654 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:02,899 don't make sensible gun laws we're all 655 00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:04,450 going to lose our right to own guns 656 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:06,950 everybody's got to wake up about that 657 00:28:13,899 --> 00:28:10,220 you know and I'm Jewish I'm happy to say 658 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:13,909 and boy if if what happened in Nazi 659 00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:16,490 Germany you know if people were so 660 00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:18,710 allowed to own their own guns at the 661 00:28:22,299 --> 00:28:20,750 time when Hitler took over maybe what we 662 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:22,309 know of as the Holocaust might not have 663 00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:25,370 happened so I see the perspective I see 664 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:26,929 the gun issue from both sides and that's 665 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:29,720 a whole other story at some point but I 666 00:28:33,779 --> 00:28:32,450 was one of the key people involved in 667 00:28:36,639 --> 00:28:33,789 the Million Man March 668 00:28:38,350 --> 00:28:36,649 well one of many many many women that 669 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:38,360 came together to create that million mom 670 00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:42,799 March and I think it was 2001 and then 671 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:46,340 out of accrue the ceasefire and so I've 672 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:47,870 been on the board of that for a long 673 00:28:52,779 --> 00:28:50,330 time so I'm using my talents in a lot of 674 00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:52,789 other ways that I was not able to do 675 00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:53,600 when I was 676 00:28:57,250 --> 00:28:56,030 younger just for the main purpose of 677 00:29:01,390 --> 00:28:57,260 running a business and raising children 678 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,400 right sure so that's how I kind of came 679 00:29:07,630 --> 00:29:04,880 to explore crop circles I just said oh 680 00:29:09,970 --> 00:29:07,640 I'm passionate I want to go forward and 681 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:09,980 understand this in more depth and that's 682 00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:11,570 that goes a long way that's a very 683 00:29:18,730 --> 00:29:17,390 underrated attribute that passion I'm 684 00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:18,740 surprised 685 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,960 let me tell you anything you do in life 686 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:22,640 you're going to hit hurdles and brick 687 00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:25,250 walls and if you don't have the passion 688 00:29:29,770 --> 00:29:28,520 and the drive to get around those I mean 689 00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:29,780 there are times in your life and you 690 00:29:34,330 --> 00:29:31,190 just have to throw your hands up and go 691 00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:34,340 oh my goodness you know I didn't 692 00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,070 understand what you know that I did 693 00:29:40,299 --> 00:29:38,720 something that you know maybe I 694 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:40,309 shouldn't have so I need to apologize 695 00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:43,460 and move forward and you need your 696 00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:47,120 passion to take you further and I've 697 00:29:51,899 --> 00:29:49,820 certainly hit a lot of walls and then 698 00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:51,909 learned and stepped over them and 699 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:55,070 continued to move in that direction so I 700 00:30:00,130 --> 00:29:57,890 for any young people listening life is 701 00:30:03,070 --> 00:30:00,140 tough you know nobody tells you how 702 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:03,080 difficult it's going to be yes just 703 00:30:08,770 --> 00:30:06,289 yesterday my my daughter in town was in 704 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:08,780 driving she got completely sideswiped by 705 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,750 a bus that's a big tour bus took off a 706 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:14,000 wheel on her car and damaged the whole 707 00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:15,530 front of her car and then it drove away 708 00:30:20,260 --> 00:30:18,140 it was like a hit-and-run right right 709 00:30:23,380 --> 00:30:20,270 you know and I'm like oh well this stuff 710 00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:23,390 happens you know and thank God there was 711 00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:25,070 there's a camera there so we're going to 712 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:27,590 be able to probably get the footage from 713 00:30:32,409 --> 00:30:29,450 septa and figure out who hit her and 714 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:32,419 move forward but it's really you got to 715 00:30:36,570 --> 00:30:34,130 prepare you got to be prepared for these 716 00:30:38,740 --> 00:30:36,580 curveballs that life throws at you 717 00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:38,750 protect yourself at all times 718 00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:41,360 check yourself at all times you know go 719 00:30:45,490 --> 00:30:42,200 slowly 720 00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:45,500 take a deep breath rethink you know if 721 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:48,559 you've made a mistake apologize try to 722 00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:50,000 look at things from other people's 723 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,270 perspective and move forward now life is 724 00:30:58,659 --> 00:30:55,520 not easy and especially with this UFO 725 00:31:00,880 --> 00:30:58,669 topic you know it's at least with the 726 00:31:03,970 --> 00:31:00,890 with the crop circles this is something 727 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:03,980 I didn't mention with crop circles and 728 00:31:09,140 --> 00:31:06,840 randomly downed crop there's a lot of 729 00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:09,150 trace evidence and a lot of times with 730 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:11,790 lights in the sky that fly by you know 731 00:31:17,270 --> 00:31:15,450 it's like somebody's you know statement 732 00:31:19,370 --> 00:31:17,280 yes I saw this and unless you have two 733 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:19,380 or three people that see it or film it 734 00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:21,600 you don't have any physical trace 735 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:23,400 evidence or radar that's right 736 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:25,410 so with crop circles I think one of the 737 00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:27,510 reasons I was attracted to it is it's 738 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:29,820 it's like amazing I you just walk right 739 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:31,950 into it and it's huge and you can't even 740 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:33,750 understand it because you can't see it 741 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,090 from the air you need to have a drone 742 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:38,240 now that flies over and snaps a picture 743 00:31:43,220 --> 00:31:40,560 so that you can understand what you're 744 00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:43,230 walking around in and there's tons of 745 00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:45,360 physical trace evidence I mean tons so 746 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:46,500 much you couldn't even put it in your 747 00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:48,750 suitcase and bring it home not to 748 00:31:52,970 --> 00:31:51,420 mention that it's illegal these days for 749 00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:52,980 a long time specially in hope and mouth 750 00:31:58,580 --> 00:31:55,020 disease we couldn't bring anything home 751 00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,590 with us right from England but there's 752 00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:00,720 tons of trace evidence and that's what's 753 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:02,400 so fascinating about the crop circle 754 00:32:09,170 --> 00:32:05,810 research yeah okay well I'm just 755 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:09,180 wrapping up now there has been some 756 00:32:15,290 --> 00:32:11,940 controversy MUFON has not been without 757 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:15,300 controversy recently because of some 758 00:32:23,870 --> 00:32:20,130 comments regarding John venturi you lost 759 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:23,880 a guy Chris Cogswell who had taken over 760 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:26,880 as director of scientific research for 761 00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:30,390 MUFON who was in for a while and then he 762 00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:33,780 was out over what he saw Ventris 763 00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:38,190 continued involvement with MUFON what 764 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:41,460 can you tell us about this that hasn't 765 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:44,370 been good you know I like to give people 766 00:32:50,660 --> 00:32:46,770 the benefit of the doubt and I think in 767 00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:50,670 Chris Cogswell's case he probably maybe 768 00:32:57,290 --> 00:32:54,390 as a scientist he really never had a 769 00:32:59,720 --> 00:32:57,300 direct phone call with mr. Ventre to 770 00:33:02,330 --> 00:32:59,730 find out really what went on with his 771 00:33:04,790 --> 00:33:02,340 Facebook posts and John I think it's 772 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:04,800 terribly embarrassed and very very sorry 773 00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:06,930 that he did what he did he worked for 774 00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:10,560 years with ups and security with African 775 00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:13,260 American people and he is really not a 776 00:33:20,029 --> 00:33:16,860 prejudiced person he wrote things in a 777 00:33:21,950 --> 00:33:20,039 tie rate over a piece of fake news 778 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:21,960 that someone sent him he may even been 779 00:33:26,479 --> 00:33:24,570 deliberately set up and I'm sure if John 780 00:33:28,999 --> 00:33:26,489 could go back and do it over again he 781 00:33:31,340 --> 00:33:29,009 would he's made many public apologies 782 00:33:33,529 --> 00:33:31,350 but Chris didn't seem to be open to 783 00:33:36,379 --> 00:33:33,539 hearing anything from that and actually 784 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:36,389 John may be slightly overinflated his 785 00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:39,210 position when we started this conference 786 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:43,049 he was of course involved in MUFON PA as 787 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:44,700 our state director and every state 788 00:33:49,369 --> 00:33:46,529 director is the one who's responsible 789 00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:49,379 for hosting a conference if it's in your 790 00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,799 city so John was very involved in 2014 791 00:33:57,589 --> 00:33:54,720 and did an excellent job which is why 792 00:34:00,619 --> 00:33:57,599 the conference was coming back in 2018 793 00:34:03,859 --> 00:34:00,629 so when he stepped down over a year ago 794 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:03,869 I very happily stepped up we changed you 795 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:08,099 know roles very effectively and you know 796 00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:09,780 John and I occasionally speak on the 797 00:34:14,089 --> 00:34:12,030 phone he's a nice guy 798 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:14,099 but a lot of things happened as a result 799 00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:17,190 of you know his Facebook posts and I 800 00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:19,379 just think he wasn't thinking at the 801 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:22,619 time but and Chris I think also had some 802 00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:24,210 personal things going on in his life 803 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:26,460 that maybe he didn't mention and would 804 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:29,129 best be left for his own personal 805 00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:33,210 reasons left unaddressed we all need to 806 00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:35,909 have a certain amount of privacy in our 807 00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:38,250 lives and I really respect that so the 808 00:34:41,899 --> 00:34:39,990 speed with which he stepped in and 809 00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:41,909 stepped out of MUFON a significant that 810 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:45,359 maybe this was an easy excuse but John 811 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:47,220 venturi has not been the chairperson for 812 00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:50,399 well over a year when this event came up 813 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:52,710 originally last May we made a transition 814 00:34:57,020 --> 00:34:55,649 easily he stepped down I stepped up Jan 815 00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:57,030 horizon-- from the national office 816 00:35:03,220 --> 00:34:59,460 called me and said will you take over 817 00:35:05,569 --> 00:35:03,230 and I said yes I'd be happy to so and 818 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:05,579 the conference is really going to be 819 00:35:10,010 --> 00:35:07,410 wonderful the hotel's been wonderful to 820 00:35:12,049 --> 00:35:10,020 us and you know in any organization 821 00:35:15,289 --> 00:35:12,059 there's always going to be someone there 822 00:35:17,329 --> 00:35:15,299 who's trying to stir a soup pot or pull 823 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:17,339 the organization apart and I usually 824 00:35:22,670 --> 00:35:19,609 think those are plants of some sort 825 00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:22,680 debunkers in some way who want to deface 826 00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:24,990 the whole topic and if you can't to face 827 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:27,030 the topic then you go after a personal 828 00:35:31,069 --> 00:35:29,190 attack on the people who are involved in 829 00:35:32,930 --> 00:35:31,079 it and Travis Walton can tell you this 830 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:32,940 very well right 831 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:34,980 if you can't attack the data attack the 832 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:37,319 person right this you hear Stanton 833 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:39,510 Friedman say this all the time do your 834 00:35:44,569 --> 00:35:42,150 research you know by Proclamation not by 835 00:35:46,460 --> 00:35:44,579 research so don't pay attention to the 836 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:46,470 facts they don't matter just you know 837 00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:48,720 produce the propaganda you want people 838 00:35:52,549 --> 00:35:51,089 will believe you and that's what's going 839 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:52,559 on on this whole topic that's the 840 00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:54,480 backstory to it all there's something 841 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:56,280 else afloat and there's always people 842 00:36:00,460 --> 00:35:58,410 that want to make people fight against 843 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:00,470 one another and make them look 844 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,210 discredited so I think that's a big part 845 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,280 of what's happening and honestly it's 846 00:36:10,549 --> 00:36:08,160 such a small thing in the big picture of 847 00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:10,559 what's going on with Lewis Elizondo 848 00:36:13,819 --> 00:36:12,270 coming with this conference being here 849 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:13,829 that anybody who's going to spend their 850 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:15,450 time focusing on that it's kind of 851 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,210 really looking in the wrong direction 852 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:20,160 but maybe that's deliberate for some 853 00:36:26,089 --> 00:36:24,150 reason like I you know like when Clinton 854 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,099 was in power and everybody was focused 855 00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:29,280 on what's going on on that blue dress 856 00:36:34,460 --> 00:36:32,579 who's Monica Lewinsky and whether or not 857 00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:34,470 the President had a relationship and 858 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:36,000 that was inappropriate that he should 859 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:37,529 have and shouldn't have had there was a 860 00:36:41,180 --> 00:36:39,750 whole backstory going on as well that 861 00:36:44,059 --> 00:36:41,190 what was going on in Congress at that 862 00:36:46,789 --> 00:36:44,069 time is they were all being handed the 863 00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:46,799 UFO braking briefing document that was 864 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,049 prepared but you never heard about that 865 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,079 in the news did you know we're all going 866 00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:54,000 to just talk about Monica Lewinsky 867 00:36:59,299 --> 00:36:56,579 so whenever the you know the media is 868 00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:59,309 like way overdone in a different area 869 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:01,920 you need to step back objectively and 870 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,529 say oh okay what am I not supposed to 871 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:07,440 look good right don't pay attention to 872 00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:10,890 that guy behind the curtain of course 873 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:12,660 I'm using a line from Wizard in The 874 00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:21,200 hopefully that answers your question 875 00:37:30,319 --> 00:37:27,420 yeah well it was John that John was on 876 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:30,329 my Facebook friends list at the time and 877 00:37:36,289 --> 00:37:34,140 I did see the tweet in question and well 878 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:36,299 it was was an unforced error let's put 879 00:37:41,769 --> 00:37:38,609 it that way yeah and the other thing is 880 00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:41,779 Facebook is Facebook and it shouldn't be 881 00:37:46,820 --> 00:37:45,359 held up as a representation of that was 882 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:46,830 that's John's personal 883 00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:48,360 it doesn't have anything to do with his 884 00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:50,760 job and move on or if he'd been working 885 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:52,470 at UPS at the time if he hadn't been 886 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:54,210 retired you know what he does on 887 00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,590 Facebook doesn't really have that much 888 00:38:00,860 --> 00:37:57,900 to do with what goes on in a 889 00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:00,870 professional world but we live in a day 890 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:05,040 and age where people are so much more 891 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:08,010 rackin social media that may need to be 892 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:11,370 and a lot of times you know think people 893 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,290 do things not necessarily out of 894 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:16,320 deliberate maliciousness but sometimes 895 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:19,050 just you know plain stupidity I mean my 896 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:21,810 gosh I certainly have done things where 897 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:25,310 I'll say oh boy I wasn't thinking was I 898 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:28,350 so you say you're sorry you know yeah 899 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:29,850 look at the situation from the other 900 00:38:33,950 --> 00:38:31,770 person's perspective and you move on and 901 00:38:36,490 --> 00:38:33,960 certainly we all haven't move on I mean 902 00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:36,500 this is like such old news to us it's 903 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:39,060 you know you got to keep up with what's 904 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:42,410 going on and the whole UFO topic is 905 00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:45,090 constantly filled with new and 906 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,310 interesting data coming forward so and 907 00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:49,200 that's much more interesting to look at 908 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:51,240 so let's give people the benefit of a 909 00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:52,980 doubt you know that'sthat's the approach 910 00:39:00,140 --> 00:38:54,960 I've taken well we're going to see a lot 911 00:39:02,660 --> 00:39:00,150 of that next weekend then and you've got 912 00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:02,670 a great lineup I hope to be over there 913 00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:05,670 if if I get there I'll hunt you down and 914 00:39:09,250 --> 00:39:07,560 you'll say who is this guy come out to 915 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:09,260 me you know I'll just say hey it's me 916 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:13,710 and yeah it should it should be a lot of 917 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:15,450 fun and I certainly hope to get there 918 00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:17,700 have you got anything else for us that I 919 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:21,900 haven't asked you about oh gosh I don't 920 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:24,270 think so 921 00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:26,490 but let's do another show in depth about 922 00:39:30,590 --> 00:39:28,560 crop circles sometime in it okay all 923 00:39:34,070 --> 00:39:30,600 right I spoke at the International UFO 924 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:34,080 Congress last year so I can send you a 925 00:39:39,830 --> 00:39:36,900 DVD of my talk and you can be a little 926 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:39,840 more in-depth Oh or rantin to my 927 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:42,510 perspective on what's going on and we 928 00:39:46,580 --> 00:39:44,370 can have a more in-depth show yeah 929 00:39:49,070 --> 00:39:46,590 absolutely yeah well I'll get that to 930 00:39:51,170 --> 00:39:49,080 you and yeah I'm looking forward to that 931 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:51,180 because like I said it's a big field I 932 00:39:55,310 --> 00:39:52,410 know there's no way you could be an 933 00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:55,320 expert on every little aspect of it or 934 00:40:00,930 --> 00:39:57,910 even some big aspects of it 935 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:00,940 yeah always always looking to know more 936 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:03,490 looking to find out more best of luck to 937 00:40:06,059 --> 00:40:04,690 you next weekend I don't think you're 938 00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:06,069 gonna need it I think you're gonna have 939 00:40:11,609 --> 00:40:09,609 a big success at great lineup in a big 940 00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:11,619 Metro area so I think you're gonna fill 941 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:15,240 that place from Friday to Sunday and 942 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:17,470 Jennifer Stein thank you so very much 943 00:40:21,779 --> 00:40:19,930 for coming on today thank you so much 944 00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:21,789 for having me Frank it's been a huge 945 00:40:28,650 --> 00:40:26,589 honor I hope I didn't talk too much you 946 00:40:30,299 --> 00:40:28,660 know I'm passionate I'd love to be on 947 00:40:32,609 --> 00:40:30,309 your show again thank you so much 948 00:40:35,819 --> 00:40:32,619 fantastic you have a great day Jennifer 949 00:40:38,279 --> 00:40:35,829 I thanks again and all my best coming up 950 00:40:42,539 --> 00:40:38,289 next weekend thanks a lot thanks Frank 951 00:40:45,539 --> 00:40:42,549 bye bye bye and there we go another 952 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:45,549 successful show in the books thanks for 953 00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:48,250 joining us and could very I might very 954 00:40:55,319 --> 00:40:50,859 well be over in Cherry Hill next weekend 955 00:40:57,930 --> 00:40:55,329 so if I am just say hello if you happen 956 00:40:59,370 --> 00:40:57,940 to be there we may or may not be doing a 957 00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,380 show but that we've got more in the 958 00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:01,119 works I understand we've got a couple of 959 00:41:07,230 --> 00:41:04,990 Coos possibly in the queue that we might 960 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:07,240 be having over the next several weeks